Pages: [1]   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: Modeling Shiny Things  (Read 973 times)
Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« on: March 16, 2009, 04:14:02 AM »



The obligatory glam shot to show off a shiny thing. Some Photoshop cleaning to compensate for the completely inadequate lighting situation. Had to resist the ever-present urge to super-high contrast and generally make it alien; played around with a little bit of gentle airbrushing effects.
Report to moderator   Logged
admin
Mark J - admin
Administrator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1,812



WWW
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 05:46:31 AM »

I like the pose of this shot, with the one eyed direct stare.
I think the lighting (if flash) may be better bounced from one side (models left in this case) rather than front on.
I'm on record as not being a massive fan of flash whenever there is a natural light alternative
Report to moderator   Logged

Mark Johnson - site admin
Find art in light, shadow, texture and form
www.ozlifestylephotography.com.au
Analog6
I always shoot Raw!
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Winner: June Theme Challenge
Posts: 4,132


Visit my blog - http://odillesphotos.wordpress.com


WWW
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 12:49:33 PM »

Frankly, I'd ditch the shiny thing and just crop to her face and beautiful shiny hair.  Her expression is great, really mischievous.  She looks as if she has something plotted!
Report to moderator   Logged

Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 02:33:57 PM »

I think the lighting (if flash) may be better bounced from one side (models left in this case) rather than front on.

How do you go about doing this?

At the time of the shot it was night, so natural wasn't an opinion unless the moon had been out and there was a lot of standing perfectly still.  Cheesy
Report to moderator   Logged
Derek
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Light Art Theme Challenge Feb 09Light Art Theme Challenge Jul 09
Posts: 661


smile...


« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 04:27:43 PM »

"In my humble opinion" - There are two points of interest in this image causing distraction. If you want to show the shiny thing crop the models head out. If you want the face which has great expression and eye contact lose the shiny thing. Personally I am partial to faces and would like to see that stay and I agree with 'AD Mark' that the flash should be bounced as it has created a harsh reflection off the hair and nose. Point the flash towards the models left and bounce/reflect the light back with something as simple as a sheet of white cardboard this will mainly light the visible part of the face which is the point of interest. If I am not mistaken this is a self portrait so I would love to see another attempt at it. The pose and expression is just great leaving the viewer to ponder what is going on behind those eyes.   
Report to moderator   Logged

"The act of making a photograph is less a question of what is being looked at than how." - Margaret Atwood
bigbob
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Light Art Theme Challenge Mar 09
Posts: 1,918



« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 04:37:10 PM »

why not try one of each, face and shiny thing show us two shots it can't hurt and it is all good experience
Report to moderator   Logged
Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 08:48:28 PM »

Point the flash towards the models left and bounce/reflect the light back with something as simple as a sheet of white cardboard this will mainly light the visible part of the face which is the point of interest.

Can this be done with a built-in flash? The only one I have is that which is built in to my Canon, and I tend to shy away from using flash - I don't particularly like it, and as a result, I don't have much experience manipulating it.
Report to moderator   Logged
Derek
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Light Art Theme Challenge Feb 09Light Art Theme Challenge Jul 09
Posts: 661


smile...


« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 09:42:18 PM »

Point the flash towards the models left and bounce/reflect the light back with something as simple as a sheet of white cardboard this will mainly light the visible part of the face which is the point of interest.

Can this be done with a built-in flash? The only one I have is that which is built in to my Canon, and I tend to shy away from using flash - I don't particularly like it, and as a result, I don't have much experience manipulating it.
I can't agree more, sunlight is much better but often there is no choice and proper control of flash can produce some amazing results. Back to the issue, a built in flash is much harder to manipulate and is certainly not easy to bounce let alone the lack of power they produce so, apart from finding another light source such as a lamp or daylight I think you could perhaps only diffuse the built in to reduce the harshness.
Report to moderator   Logged

"The act of making a photograph is less a question of what is being looked at than how." - Margaret Atwood
Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 10:20:13 PM »

I went shopping for lamps today, but no luck with something I wanted yet.
I'll try out some stuff tomorrow if the sun manages to break through the rain!
Report to moderator   Logged
Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 12:14:26 AM »



In the meantime, I played around with trying to subtly reduce the flash-glare on the skin with evening (although the evening tone might have been too bright), warm up the frosty shine it put on the hair, cleaned and brightened, and color corrected the shiny-thing.
Report to moderator   Logged
admin
Mark J - admin
Administrator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1,812



WWW
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 04:33:33 AM »

Auto barn style outlets often have pairs of 500w tungsten lights mounted on those yellow industrial style stands.
You can buy them in OZ for about AUD$30, so probably USD$20-25.
The intensity of the ligh can be contolled a number of ways:
Distance from the subject
Diffusion through sheer material, tracing paper or tissue paper
Bouncing of a large piece of white of light coloured board or into the underside of a white umbrella, or sheet of board covered in foil
Shooting through a 'snoot' (cone restricting the spread of light), a screen of any kind of mesh, or barn doors flaps made from cardboard, plastic, whatever.
Gels. I once went to a theater lighting outlet and bought a broad range of assorted theater gel offcuts for next to nothing. Everything from yellows and ambers, reds, blues, greens, purple. I cut them down to small rectangles that attach to my flash head.
In the same way you can filter any light, even cellophane (never in contact with the hot light surfaces)
Anything off-camera is good.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 07:10:19 PM by admin » Report to moderator   Logged

Mark Johnson - site admin
Find art in light, shadow, texture and form
www.ozlifestylephotography.com.au
Analog6
I always shoot Raw!
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Winner: June Theme Challenge
Posts: 4,132


Visit my blog - http://odillesphotos.wordpress.com


WWW
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 01:39:55 PM »

I never realised that mark.  I've never had lights because I could never afford them.  Silly me never did the lateral thinking exercise of what could I substitute.  I'll have a look at the auto shop when I am cashed up.
Report to moderator   Logged

Derek
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
Light Art Theme Challenge Feb 09Light Art Theme Challenge Jul 09
Posts: 661


smile...


« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 05:30:50 PM »

I did something similar a while back. From the hardware store i picked up a large industrial lamp with a good reflector inside and then replaced the globe with a fluorescent lamp which was equivalent to a 240 watt incandescent globe. The thing I liked about the fluorescent was they stay pretty cool (tungsten gets VERY hot) and you can buy them in different temperatures needless to say I got the one which was at a similar temperature to sunlight. It was a very cheap alternative and the results were pretty good too.
Report to moderator   Logged

"The act of making a photograph is less a question of what is being looked at than how." - Margaret Atwood
Truckman
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 670


Just a poor but honest retired gun dealer...


« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2009, 11:45:48 AM »

Nice looking babe... Grin...Ben
Report to moderator   Logged

β€œIt must be mounted on a tripod!...It must be mounted on a tripod!” – Cmdr. Frederick Mohr
OZZI-BLOKE
Guest
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2009, 08:40:05 AM »

I like the shot but agree on the comments above, try shooting seperately, the look on your models face
and the fact that she looks very attractive to start with would make a great shot on its own. The shiny thing is a bit blown out in places and probably distracts from the image a bit.
For the flash on your camera you could also try to make up some sort of diffuser for it to soften the light and spread it a bit more evenly. Being a canon you may be able to buy one for it.
Report to moderator   Logged
Gage
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 97


« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2009, 06:50:33 PM »

Quote from: OZZI
For the flash on your camera you could also try to make up some sort of diffuser for it to soften the light and spread it a bit more evenly. Being a canon you may be able to buy one for it.
That's an idea I've been looking into recently while reading up on some flash techniques. When I'm able, I plan on trying out some different home-made diffusers and see if any of them are viable. Smiley
Report to moderator   Logged
Tim N
Canon man !
Global Moderator
Light Art tragic
*****
Offline Offline

Awards:
January \'09 Theme Comp Award - PortraitsApril \'09 Theme Comp Award - Taking Flight
Posts: 2,708



« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 02:37:39 AM »

Try tracing / baking paper ... if its not enough fold it a couple of times ... its cheap and all you need is a rubber band ! I once tried a green plastic bag folded a few times and it gave a pretty cool effect.
Report to moderator   Logged

Time is like a freeway of infinite lanes, all leading from the past to the future. A driver in lane A may crash, while a driver in lane B survives, it follows that by changing lanes one may be able to predict the future.
OZZI-BLOKE
Guest
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2009, 01:50:35 AM »

I was just going to suggest tracing paper, but you beet me to it, I forgot to put it in my other post.
I read about in in a mag a while back, thinking of trying it myself.
Report to moderator   Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
Print
Jump to: